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Desmond Tutu — A God of Surprises

On Being with Krista Tippett

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The Distinction Between Truth and Forgiveness

We discovered, I mean, that actually the legislators were a lot smarter because had they insisted that it was a condition to get amnesty. And we were very upset and said, but I mean, why not say they've got to say sorry or something? In conversations with people who are around the Truth and Reconciliation Commission,. they also talk though about it was truth and reconciliation and that those are different things.

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