Episode 478: Foreign Policy, Adoption, & Race with Esau McCaulley & Jamie Ivey
The Holy Post
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Introduction
This week we have a special double feature. phil and i talk about new poling that indicates the frightening number of people on both the right and the left who want to disunite the country. Are we on a path toward civil war? Then phil interviews esau macaulay about his recent new york times editorial about president byden's vengeance against terrorists in afghanistan. And i interview jamie ivy about her experience as a white mom raising black kids. How has it changed her perception of race and why she believes love can no longer solve every problem.
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