i think about jerry falwell junior and liberty university. Three years before he finally left, the contours of the scandal about him were pretty widely known in american christianity. And there was a board of directors there at liberty, there were the board of directors, and he's still sailing along,. Or rave zacharias rave a, in 20 17. He had, there was a scandal in which, we didn't know this at the time, but they knew this internally at the institution, that when they asked for him to turn over his personal technology for investigation, he refused, and they just let it sail on. So the time has long passed, long passed