"Get over your paid to speak places. Get over the weirdness that you're being exalted as like a special person or you're writing books," she says. "I wouldn't say it's the most glamorous but it's the least like having to put yourself out there." She also talks about how social media is how people find out about things.
Ryan Holiday (new book Discipline is Destiny!) returns to make it weird!
Watch the video of the podcast here!