I like to think of it as image guided minimally invasive procedures. We're standing right by her groin where we're using that access to manipulate wires and catheters up to her brain. And there's an x-ray and that's like over her head or neck. So it does seem like surgery as well as radiology. Like how is it not in terms of the nominal clature? How is it not radiological surgery? Is what you know what I mean? Yeah, I think it's not surgery because we aren't cutting the patients open and we're just making a small incision. When this woman came out of her procedure, she just had a little band-

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