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114: Michael McFaul | What It's Like to Stand Up to Putin

The Jordan Harbinger Show

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The Importance of Listening in on Conversations

"I flew all the way from Moscow to Seoul just to be in that meeting for an hour," he says. "That was unusual." Obama wanted him there, but because I knew him, he had me come. He probably just shrugged and said, I don't know what you're talking about", Kieslek recalls of Medvedev's response.

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