The Drill Sergeant and the Zen Master

Gina Kogan: I'm a bit more of a drill sergeant to borrow an archetype from your article and Jonathan if you could please correct that in a future super chat that would help. And then the good one is the builder, the builder who is building something perfect and what perfect means we'll get into. The opposite side is the Zen master inside of your head saying like I said, it's fine. Okay, so what what's your response to all that did I just really hit it all on the head and we can wrap it there. This is such a pleasure just to sit back and hear it so nicely.