The Jolly Swagman Podcast

Anda: It's just wonderful to see, in this age of a unpleasantness and unreason, it's nice to see just open, honest discussions about stuff. So now you bring genetics in, and it's so synergistic. Because everywhere you look, you say, you guys don't know anything. You've ignored genetics. You've pretended that everything's environmental. Yes. And i'm going to go out feet first, i guess. But i'd love to to continue the conversation on another occasion. I hope you enjoyed that conversation as much as i did.