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The Importance of Responsibility in the West
I've spent over 180 hours talking with my NATO colleagues and European colleagues in person or on Zoom. I say to them, do you know anybody, any world leader who would trade places with Xi Jinping? Okay, I'll trade. I'll take their problems, you take mine. Because it's not that he's a bad guy or a good guy. Circumstances are enormously complicated. But I don't think he wants, he's looking for war conflict, expansion of territory.