Muppets and Variety Shows

I remember going to watch a lot of the tapings and you know, just even the idea of a variety show is a little bit alien today. The whole genre, it feels like it's so much of the past. Oliver and I were just talking about this, how we want to do a show and we were like, maybe we should do a variety show. We've had the variety show with the numbers and the, you know, of actual like moving cameras and all that jazz. And ultimately, the Muppet show kind of grew out of that because it was the Muppets chance to have their own variety show and bring on guests versus them being the guests on somebody else's