Herson, one of the things that i've seen that's been interesting in the warehouse logistic sort of automation world is this shift more towards a priorty level on and focus an investment on software development. And also change in business model, where it's more of a soft ware on, like subscription, you know, service these warehouse providers ar warehouse owners. Is this same thing happening in your industry? Herson: You'll see the same business model in every verticle as well. We no passenger, if you understand. We pay money when we go from blindt findme. Yes.
Bibhrajit Halder has been a part of the autonomous driving technology space since the days of the DARPA Challenges, working on Caterpillar's early automated mining trucks before working at Ford, Apple and elsewhere. Now the founder and CEO of SafeAI, Halder is back in the mining and heavy construction space and he joins the show to share his perspective on the state of autonomous heavy equipment and its similarities and differences with the more widely-followed robotaxi space.