Is There a Moment of Creation?

The creation out of nothing is a necessary conclusion of theology and philosophy. But it's not a question that as a scientist you just don't at or do you see what I'm saying? You're sitting with another scientist and the two of you are working in that person wears a Darwin t-shirt or whatever there, you know, an atheist t-shirt. Do you just present from that question? Or how do you how do scientists negotiate that question? Well, I don't think it's one that's within the scientific realm.