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Is sex work a choice? What are the impacts of sexual shame? Tony Award winning writer and actor Sarah Jones brings her dynamic perspective and diverse performed characters to an invigorating conversation about the sex industry showing up in everyday life. Once a taboo subject, it’s now all over society, from the servers at Hooters to the porn flooding the phones of young boys. Through her work on her newest film SELL/BUY/DATE, Sarah has learned the importance of sexual freedom, and centering choice and equality in all aspects of sexual life.

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About Sarah Jones:

Called “a master of the genre” by The New York Times, Sarah Jones is a Tony Award-winning solo performer, writer, comedian and activist. She recently made her debut as a film director with the hybrid documentary SELL/BUY/DATE, produced by Oscar-Winner Meryl Streep, in which she also stars.

Jones is mainly known for her multi-character one-person shows, including Broadway hit BRIDGE & TUNNEL, also originally produced by Streep, and the critically-acclaimed play SELL/BUY/DATE, which inspired the film. Renowned as “a one-woman global village,” she has also given multiple main-stage TEDTalks garnering millions of views, performed for President and First Lady Obama at the White House, and given a performance at The World Economic Forum in Davos, Switzerland as the first artist on its stage normally reserved for heads of state. She has also been a UNICEF Goodwill Ambassador, raising awareness of gender, ethnic, racial, and economic injustice and disparities, including in the United States.

Show Notes

2:30 - Introducing Sarah Jones

3:35 - Meet Sarah’s Characters

4:10 - When Was The Last Time You Didn’t Feel Enough?

10:16 - Leaning into human vulnerability

15:40 - Sex work and industry in our daily lives

24:22 - Men and Sexual Shame

33:02 - The Commodification of Sex

44:19 - The Importance of Choice

57:35 - Andy's advice to men: "We have to talk to each other."

01:11:36 - What Does it Mean to be Man Enough?

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