Jackie: I think about schools that are really hard and disciplined for black children. How we straddle that line like do we live in existence where we say okay but that's not the world I want to live in so that's what I'll prepare my children for? Or do you say hey this is real life and like yeah you're going to have to be way more on top of it than people who don't look like you, she says. Jackie: That's such a good point. I think that's what the role that schools play in our society and the potential role that they could play.

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