Sally Kohn: The reason for optimism is we will get through this, right? And that the recession, while I already think we're in it, and I think it's kind of a rolling recession. That's going to depend upon what we hear from the macro data," she says. "They want to get to 2%. That next 3.5% or 4% move to get us there, that's going to be the meat and potatoes"

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