The traditional way of selling in B2B businesses no longer works. Win rates are at an all-time low. Sales reps are burning out faster than ever. Quotas are missed quarter after quarter. And so what are teams trying? To just do more. More calls. More demos.  
But the solution isn’t more. First, you have to break the cycle you are stuck in. 
In today’s episode, Damon is joined by Dave Brock. He’s a legendary sales advisor, executive coach, and author of The Sales Manager Survival Guide. He's here to break down what’s wrong with the way we train sales teams today, and how modern leaders can build cultures that actually drive performance. 
In this episode, you’ll learn: 
- Why most sales teams are stuck and what it really takes to break the cycle 
 - How business acumen and curiosity outperform slide decks and sales pitches 
 - The real reason tenure is shrinking in sales and what to do about it 
 - How to coach your team effectively  
 - What Dave is building with AI and why it might be the future of learning 
 
Timestamps: 
00:00 – What’s going wrong in sales today? 
 02:10 – Why win rates are declining and panic is missing 
 05:27 – Are people losing their drive to achieve? 
 07:34 – COVID’s effect on employee disconnection 
 08:49 – Culture, belonging, and why people leave 
 10:32 – What great leaders do differently 
 12:22 – The math doesn’t work: ramp time vs. tenure 
 15:56 – How short-term thinking hurts everyone 
 16:36 – Why most sales cycles end in no decision 
 18:59 – The key to building trust: problem-first conversations 
 21:23 – The pitch is dead—long live collaboration 
 23:39 – Why salespeople lack business acumen 
 24:42 – The real role of subject matter experts 
 26:20 – The $500k SDR: a credibility case study 
 29:23 – Where to find your next great SDR 
 31:15 – Brand damage from bad conversations 
 33:56 – One-size-fits-all coaching doesn't work 
 34:55 – What frontline managers get wrong 
 36:58 – Directive vs. non-directive coaching 
 38:56 – Coaching inside every conversation 
 42:32 – Using improv to teach collaborative coaching 
 44:59 – Coaching in “cracks of time” 
 45:54 – What’s changed since The Sales Manager Survival Guide 
 47:52 – Preview of Dave’s next book: Sales Executive Survival Guide 
 49:05 – Using AI as a debate partner, not a crutch 
 51:25 – Learning faster through collaborative AI tools 
 53:59 – Dave’s master prompt strategy for ChatGPT and Claude 
 54:18 – What keeps Dave curious after decades of success 
 56:35 – What extreme sports and Wu-Tang taught him about innovation 
 59:28 – Why mentoring high schoolers keeps him sharp 
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About the Guest: 
Dave Brock is the author of Sales Manager Survival Guide. He leads Partners in EXCELLENCE, which helps sales leaders rethink coaching, culture, and customer engagement. Dave’s recent work includes AI-powered sales learning tools based on curiosity, problem solving, and trust-building. 
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