TIP729: Mastering the Capital Cycle
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In this episode, Clay explores the core ideas behind Capital Returns by Edward Chancellor and Marathon Asset Management. Based on decades of investing experience, the book uncovers the capital cycle framework, which reveals how capital flows, supply dynamics, and managerial incentives drive long-term investment outcomes. Whether you're a value investor, a portfolio manager, or simply curious about market cycles, this episode offers guidance for understanding the boom and bust nature of cyclical industries.
IN THIS EPISODE YOU’LL LEARN:
00:00 - Intro
01:31 - How the capital cycle explains boom and bust industry dynamics.
07:03 - Why tracking supply is often more useful than forecasting demand.
16:20 - How capital discipline separates great managers from average ones.
05:07 - Why excess investment leads to lower future returns.
30:38 - Why cyclical industries can offer high-return opportunities.
41:50 - How incentives and ownership structures impact corporate decision-making.
49:10 - How low interest rates distort creative destruction and capital efficiency.
53:25 - Why mean reversion remains a powerful force in markets.
58:35 - How to spot red flags near capital cycle peaks.
01:03:55 - Why flexible thinking is essential for long-term investing success.
And so much more!
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- Edward Chancellor’s book: Capital Returns.
- Gautam Baid’s book: The Joys Of Compounding.
- Related Episode: TIP505: The Price of Time w/ Edward Chancellor.
- Mentioned Episode: TIP727: 7 Powers by Hamilton Helmer.
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