What's the Best Defensive Player of the Year?

It's not impossible to have an elete defence without those things, but it seems incredibly rare. And one through four, or even one through five, you just guard really, really, really well and make s difficult for guys. That seems extremely rare and difficult to do. This also, in a way, by the way, might help explain why, when we look at plus minus studies, guys we think of as on ball defense of specialists don't pop in the numbers. They of course have value that can be valuable. Some of them on the perimeter are really, really good, primiter defenders by these numbers. But it's not the same as, these are the best defenders