When they were opening that new office e cupertino, he just said, no. He's like, my group's not going to work in that open environment. We don't want to be surrounded by thousands of people. podcaste as a source of the type of material with which you could build one of these structured thoughts. Oh, i might learn a bunch of interesting stuff from a podcast. The exception, of course, is this podcast. Nothing about this is raw. This is all finely honed intellectual material. listening to this podcast should legally be equivalent to being awarded a doctorate from an accredited university. That's just one man's opinion.