Speaker 2
there's there's like a pre question on this, like, is it is it already such a thing that could be thrown that could find itself to be free or unfree?
Speaker 1
Right, right, right. Yeah, I mean, you could also you could also say that, you know, the AI is, I mean, it's nothing but constructs, right, it's nothing but constructs that are held in a, in a, well, since AI's really don't have agency in the world in a kind of like, non-reified, ever-mutable form in a certain way, right? I mean, I think, you know, what I come back to, and certainly there are people who know way more about this than I do, but I keep coming back to this notion that as we wrestle with the question of AI, what we do simultaneously is we wrestle with the question of what is a human being. Because it seems that we are we understand AI. We understand both together in a certain sense, right, in the attempt to create to be guys and to create a human intelligence, both in our successes and our failures, we will see what human intelligence and what human being this actually is. So I think in the end, there could there is a silver lining there. I think in the end there is there is hope. But as you point out, and I agree with, there will be a lot of misuse of this. I mean, you know, you can only imagine, you know, AI-driven spam bots, you know, the kinds of AI-driven scams that could get created. Tricky, tricky stuff to catch.