Technology has now turned us, all of us, into political figures. You go to starbuck, you pick up a rainbow cup, my cofffee is now political. Is it any surprise that the church has now waded into politics? No, no. I don't think it's a surprise. And i think you're pointing there, again, to a couple of other things that happened in our society. One, technology's really abolished private space. The other side of it is, i view corporate wokeness very, very cynically.

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