Manchester City have had a mixed bag of an opening day. I think the drop points in the first two games and they went well we're not gonna win the league with this lot, says Brendan Rodgers. The manager has got a lot wrong he's sort of got a game by game wrong it's not good season at all according to Rodgers. Liverpool are going for fourth because if you've been there you can raise yourself to want to be there or if it's something you've not done before but if it just becomes a bit of a Trojan I think ultimately they needed that.