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Harry Potter and the Sacred Text
Are These Really the Numbers?
Vanessa Williams: I'm someone who really likes making decisions based on facts. Toni Morrison says the distinction that we need to make is not between fact and fiction, it's between fact and truth because truth requires human intelligence and facts. Don't just look at numbers; you have to know what they mean,. To choose one or the other over the other is not a fact question but an emotional question.
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Speaker 3
I actually have to spend time paying attention to folks and hearing how deep that pain is and listening to it and trying to hold it,
Speaker 4
even as I was my own,
Speaker 2
right? Try to hold in the way that can keep it from replicating into the sorts of hurts that we see replicating in this chapter. Hold it in a way that can not diminish or suppress or ignore it, but contain it at least. Hold it.
Speaker 4
Hold it. Right.
Speaker 2
So that's, that's what it's saying to me. What's it saying to you Vanessa?
Speaker 1
I'm someone who really likes making decisions based on facts and like something I will say to my family is like, well, let's look at the numbers and like that is a financial decision, not an emotional decision.
Speaker 6
And I think this makes me feel called
Speaker 5
to allowing for decisions to be emotional of like, we don't have to decide
Speaker 1
every single thing about my parents retirement based on the numbers that these decisions are more than just the numbers and that we have to double check, right?
Speaker 5
Are these really the numbers? Is this really why?
Speaker 1
I guess I want to double check myself. Yeah.
Speaker 2
I quoted Toni Morrison last week and I'm going to do it again. Toni Morrison may show up a lot in
Speaker 4
this podcast. Right. She is the best, she's the best American, but in
Speaker 3
the same essay I discussed last week, she says the distinction that we need to make is not between fact and fiction. It's between fact and truth because truth requires human intelligence and facts. Don't. They'd facts just are, right? And I think what she means by human intelligence is we can look at numbers and those numbers are facts, but
Speaker 2
to know what they mean, to make a decision about them, to understand what the risks that choosing one over the other are and to acknowledge the consequences of taking those risks is
Speaker 3
not a fact question.
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