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25: Michael Ignatieff: Fighting Orban's Global Conservative Cabal

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How to Deal With Critics and Envy

I wouldn't judge it in terms of success or failure. All I would say is I lived it, hopefully with both hands and full heart. It was a weird interview for me because it's one of the first times we're interviewing someone that I know much better than you do. The key point is provided you're prepared to pay the price, whatever the price is for doing a lot of things. And part of the price is people being envious or jealous or saying, well, he's really not very good at that. But do you prepare to pay the cost, the full freight? Fine. Michael, I love it. It's told you. Thank you, Michael. That

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