In the military, because you're put in that position, you don't naturally come with credibility. And then that's where we start talking about the different attributes and leadership attributes. Do you have someone else's best interest at heart? Or are you a good coach? Are you a good mentor? But you have to earn it. It's not just given to you. You know what I mean? Whether you agree with it or not, maybe a different discussion. Just people that are real.

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