"If I tell you a hundred truths and one lie, that lie is equal. So if you catch me in a brazen lie, you're going to look at everything I say after that with an enormous grain of salt," he says. "When it becomes viral to call people a liar, whether they're a liar or not, you feel like an unstable ground."

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