I like letting the other side go first I mean there's a lot of back and forth on this. A lot of typical advice is let them throw out the first numbers because you might throw out something too low for instance. Well that's not necessarily true because you're not counting the amount of money you're losing by not making those. Some really a really bad philosophy that people believe in is I've never lost money on a deal I didn't make. So I should buy my book. Exactly I am recommending your book. It seems like the hard thing in the hostage negotiation from your side is that you can't just say well kill him then like we don't care. Right. You

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