Distinguishing mind from consciousness

In this episode, we explore Marco Masi’s article “The Integral Cosmology of Sri Aurobindo: An Introduction from the Perspective of Consciousness Studies.” Marco’s work sits at the intersection of the hard sciences and spirituality, advancing the provocative notion of “divine materialism.”

We examine the limitations of contemporary philosophy of mind and mainstream consciousness studies, emphasizing the need for more expansive frameworks capable of addressing the interior dimensions of experience. Drawing from Sri Aurobindo’s Integral Yoga, Marco introduces Integral Cosmology as a way to fill what is often missing in academic and scientific discourse—a vision of consciousness that is both evolutionary and spiritual.

We discuss the pitfalls of academic hyperspecialization and the inadequacy of even transdisciplinary models when confronting today’s complex, multidimensional challenges. Instead, we point toward the emergence of an integral framework—a mode of inquiry grounded in the cultivation of integral consciousness itself. We conclude with a reflection on integral education and its transformative potential. How might an integral worldview help students not only synthesize scientific and spiritual paradigms, but also develop the inner capacities required for personal, cultural, and spiritual transformation?

Marco Masi (born 1965) attended the German School of Milan, Italy. He graduated in physics at the University of Padua, and later obtained a Ph.D. in physics at the University of Trento. He worked as a postdoc in universities in Italy, France, and Germany, and as a school teacher for three years. After he had authored some scientific papers (http://ow.ly/snz6u) his interests veered towards new forms of individual learning and a new concept of free progress education originated from his activity both as a tutor in several universities and as a high school teacher, but especially from his direct, lived experience of what education should not be. This led him to author a book on ”Free progress Education”. He also wrote a two-volume series on quantum physics entitled “Quantum Physics: An Overview of a Weird World”, and which tries to close a gap between the too high-level university textbooks and a too low-level popular science approach. His interests in metaphysical and philosophical ruminations led him to the vision of Sri Aurobindo and the Mother. Not only gave him this a spiritual path to follow, but also answered many questions he was looking for in science.

• Spirit Calls Nature by Marco Masi- https://www.amazon.com/dp/3948295166
• Blog - https://marcomasi.substack.com/
• Website - https://marco-masi.com/
• The Integral Cosmology of Sri Aurobindo: An Introduction from the Perspective of Consciousness Studies - https://integral-review.org/the-integral-cosmology-of-sri-aurobindo-an-introduction-from-the-perspective-of-consciousness-studies/
• New book "Meaning and Purpose in a Conscious Universe": https://www.amazon.com/dp/3948295190

The EWP Podcast credits

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• • Hosted by Stephen Julich (EWP Core Faculty) and Jonathan Kay (EWP PhD grad)
• • Produced by: Stephen Julich and Jonathan Kay
• • Edited and Mixed by: Jonathan Kay
• • Music: Mosaic, by Monsoon on the album Mandala
• • Introduction Voiceover: Roche Wadehra

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