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#005 Joe Hertler: Tapping Into Creative Genius & Pursuing Joy Through Creativity

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"To me, book writing is like elevated. It's like another step above music," he says. "You just kind of, like, knowing when to shift years as is probably like half the battle" He admits it would be difficult for him if he were to ever write a book. 'I tende get hung up on little, stupid things that no one cares about'

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