But like

for that night, that was this kind of funny, weird thing. No, it's joy. And then when you do, and I love doing television and film, but you recognize the freedom, the grotesque freedom that we have as stand-ups. You can't just go and be like, this tarot thing. Or if you do, you'll be wasting everyone's time. We're not going to use this. No, exactly. This is a drama.

Have you done like directing or anything like that? I've

directed some small things and I really enjoyed it. Yeah, because I think that

is oddly the closest thing. The stand-up. Yeah, I think so. Because you're then getting to kind of orchestrate the whole thing. Rather than, you know, be the kind of star. It's like, no, no, no. If you do that, I reckon this, you know what I mean? It's kind of. So

you have. No, no. But I think that would be. Well, you're strangely right on cue for me because you were talking about Modern Mammals. I shoot these commercials for them because I work with them. Yeah. And it was just, you know, little ads, little social media ads. And I got such a juice out of it. I was having, my friend is in a giant fake shampoo costume. We're discussing how it should like shoot out of his head and like where the camera should be and i went home and i was like i said to my wife i was like i don't know why that made me happier than i yeah imagined it shouldn't have been that fun and it was directing and greta gerwig when she did ladybird she was an actor obviously is an actor but she said watching other people say my words and i could like poke and persuade was the most satisfying thing she had ever done so it's been curious to me ever since i

did we did one sort of film thing in the uk um and i wrote it with my friend steve and seeing actors bring your words to life was really yeah it was absolutely brilliant i believe there was a guy that played my brother and what what fascinated me most is that so lines on paper you were like that is fine i know that's funny because it there is a joke there and i see it and and obviously people don't always talk in jokes so it's yeah it's that thing but he was able to make sniffing funny do you know what I mean? And you would never put, you'd never put on the script, he sniffs. Yeah. You know, and then we go, and that is funny because I've seen him sniff. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He was this way, he was able to go, and it'd just be so nonchalant. And oh, he was so brilliant. And you just go, that to me was the different thing between seeing an actor and a comedian who knows how to deliver a line it was like he

he's weird he's the prior he's

genuinely created this yeah this guy and he's got and he was doing these kind of like mannerisms you're like wow like it was so cool to see actual actors oh i agree doing it and you're like going i would never think to kind of but

we would never say a line when i watch tv i'm often like, why did that joke work? They said it wrong. That's how I feel. Yeah, totally. Like they hit the word wrong. And I would have flown in and been like, no, really is a funny word. But it works. In fact, I would say a lot of what we consider the great actors are often saying it because entertainment is surprise, right? So they're saying it in a way that you wouldn't have predicted. Whereas comedians often say things, I feel like we lean into the cadence that is the most funny and people love it. Not too many comedians are being like surprising in that way. That's more of an acting thing. I don't know, I'm thinking out loud. Yeah, yeah. Have you ever seen a ghost? Do English people

see ghosts? Do you know a lot of my relatives, a lot of our MPs look like ghosts. They have that kind of like, do you know Jacob reese mogg no um great name though yeah and he's exactly how you'd imagine um but he looks like he lingers in stately homes do you know what i mean like if and if you if you were to google like like for anyone listening to this google jacob reese mogg now and it'll be the photo of him at the House of Commons leaning down. There you go. Now tell me, that doesn't look like... A ghoul? A ghoul that you would see haunting the corridors and possibly going, mother. Like it has that kind of... Yeah, we... I haven't seen a ghost. My mum, when our first dog, Bonnie, the day after she died, there was a deer at our window. Don't mind me taking a note. No, no, of course. This deer appeared at our window. We used to live in the country. And my mum was like, that's Bonnie. She's come back. Because there was a tv sitcom uh called coronation street and my mum was like bonnie used to watch coronation street with me and she's come back as a deer to watch the episode so i guess that's the closest i've seen a dog come back as a deer to watch a sitcom with my mum wow which is pretty you know it's not is it a ghost that's reincarnation so no yeah but i want to know the age of the deer, how long it was a fully grown deer. Yeah. It was a fully grown deer. When did the dog die? The dog died the day before and then came back as a deer, as a deer pushed the deer's soul out completely. I know. Yeah. Any, any analysis, but my mom was in, in that stage, that stage of mourning. Any kind of rational analysis. Absolutely. You're talking absolute shit, woman. Your dog's dead. Now watch your stories. I walk in and go, how old is that deer? Just ruining it. Just give it to her. How about anything

unexplainable? I'm sure your wife is going to tarot readers. Have you ever had a psychic be right on the money? Have you ever UFO, alien, something strange? I went

to an alien abductee survival club. Pardon? Yeah, yeah. For a TV show I did with my mom. That was in Nevada. Gosh, haven't aliens got a type?

They do. They do. But is that a brilliant strategy? Those kind of folk and no one will believe them that

might be i i was i was trying to think what was the question have i ever had anything uh what was that like what it was wild it was so it was pure americana yeah that these these people like had all been abducted by aliens they all had stories that there was a lady that kept being taken up to a ship and she would like the aliens would make her go to school and then i was going jesus like you feel like you're done with school you can't get away and now these fuckers like that and trying to sort of make light of it and she was like no no i actually like the lessons you're like of course you know so i just felt like it was it was so so brilliant and so weird and then we met a lady that could talk to aliens and she was telling me about the language and and my mom was going did you feel anything and i sort of said i i slightly felt like my testicles were getting slightly hotter and then that became like this whole thing of like yeah well you know later on how's your nutsack is it like so me and my mom having this sort of weird conversation but so um when

you're in that situation if you're me yeah you're burdened with like do i believe these people and you probably go and going like no did. Did anybody go like, I don't know. This guy seems like he was taken.

No, no, no. It was, it was, it was clearly just like they, they needed something. Yeah. And, you know, that's kind of how I feel with a lot of stuff of like, I don't believe like spiritualist churches, not for me, but the that go to a spiritualist church they miss their loved ones and they need to hear them right and who are you to take that from them right but yeah that rationally because it's always the same i've been and it's always like i'm getting a voice is there a barbara here there's a dave he says he loves you he says go on with your life he says he wants you to be happy it's's always like that. And he's beautiful. Right. But it's never like, is there an Alan? Yep. It's Michael. He says, collapse the fuck dungeon. They know everything. Like it's never, but there's never an awful person. They know everything. But there's never kind of like, like I'm getting an Adolf.

Right. I'm getting a Jeffrey. It's like when people have previous lives they're always joan of arc or yeah it's cleopatra yeah

do you know i had a brilliant story there was a comic that i forget her name she was supporting me in canada and her friend was backstage and she was doing um hypnotherapy um but she was doing it on zoom i thought that was extraordinary like you'd have to have real confidence in your wi-fi connection. Because imagine getting, like, caught like that. And you lose your guy. And then suddenly you're in this fucking glitch forever. You mean in a trap? Yeah, yeah. Like, they didn't take you out? Yeah, exactly. That you're just like, eh, eh. You're frozen.