I've found profoundly shocking the quality of evidence that was being used to justify their decisions. What is going to persuade you? What more does it take? You know, we've got tens of thousands of children who never went back to school. We've got a broken NHS. We have an economy in smithereens. Do you really still think it was a good idea to shut society down for that long when we had a vaccine and when the mortality rates for this condition were not particularly high for anybody who wasn't already above the age of life expectancy? I mean, look, if you can't be persuaded by the content of these lockdown files, that this was just so profoundly wrong

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