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Episode 185 — Open, Free, and Spotify

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Ben: I was a little busy and just got im all over the place, and so i, i canned it. But we're back. The new podcast is dithering with our friend john gruber three times a week, 15 minutes per episode. It's short and consutable. You know exactly what you're getting,. which i think is, sorry, i'm going a rambling here, but it's lik l's like to come off mate.

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