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From the Archives | S4 E2: Work Less & Make More with Kelsey Kerslake from Pinegate Road
Better: The Brand Designer Podcast
The Importance of Having a Sales Conversation With People
Jen: What's one mistake you constantly designers make? Kelsey: Trying to sell the deliverables that you have in your packages instead of having an actual like sales conversation with people. Giselle: I actually learned really early on from Giselle, you can actually go back and listen to maybe a couple episodes from season one; she was always saying "I like to paint a picture for my client"
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