363: ‘Deliberately Churned’, With Christina Warren
The Talk Show With John Gruber
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I'm a fan, but I'm not like that hardcore level. But I know people who are and I appreciate them and I consider many of them like my friends. Disney as a company other than Apple, is one of the few companies that has had like a genuine kind of resurgence after the founder left or passed on. Like Taylor Swift, I'm borderline, right? But like, but Disney, not really there, but I do appreciate the company. It was tough for me to choose between Apple slash tech and politics.
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