Discussion on Model Development and Training Experiences in Relational Intelligence

On today's episode I chat with Dr. François Le Doze, MD. He is a psychotherapist, an IFS therapist, and trainer and has been a neurologist for nearly thirty years in a teaching Hospital in Caen, France. He has always been interested in the relationship between the body and mind, and his knowledge of neuroscience allows him to integrate recent neuroscientific findings into his psychotherapy practice. He's actively developing a model of psychotherapy called Relational Intelligence® based on his clinical experience and expertise.

In this episode we chat about:

• How crisis caused him to reconsider his relationship with IFS and Psychotherapy
• The influence of Polyvagal Theory on his Relational Intelligence Model
• "This is not a Part, but a disruption in my nervous system."
• "This isn't You; but a State of you."
• A key clarification in the Relational Intelligence model: Self-regulation = what is happening in your body; Co-regulation = what is happening between us.
• Bubble Theory: using meta-cogniton to connect and calm the nervous system

Two a-ha moments for me:

1. "We need to DO something TO the system and not expect the system will be able to unblend from the Inside Out."
2. Self Energy must be the regulator the client's system. This Self Energy can originate from either the Self of the client or the Self of the therapist. The client's Self CANNOT lead if their nervous system is dysregulated. In such cases we must tend to the saftey within the therapeutic relationship before proceeding (just as children experience Self of their parents through attachment before their own Self).

His website: SELF THERAPY TRAINING - The Relational Intelligence® model (selftherapie.com)

To learn more about and register for the training he is offering through IFSCA on March 22, 2024 go to:

Relational Intelligence: The Emerging European Model for Trauma. A synthesis of IFS, Neuroscience, Polyvagal & attachment theory Tickets in Online, ON, Canada (ticketleap.com)

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Jeff Schrum is Co-Producer of The One Inside Podcast. He completed the IFS Online Circle and is currently enrolled in an IFS Level 1 training. 

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