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The First Step Is Bias Awareness
I think it's really, um, powerful to bring that bias to the surface, but not let that lead to kind of fear and paralysis. You should almost, I mean, that's where humor is, make fun of it, bring it to the surface. And then from there you like, um, um, replace the bias, like bias replacement. The bias can go home now because it has been challenged with reality and understanding. So this is much respect for Van Jones, although I disagree with him on so many things,. But people like Van Jones, who was pardoned by President Trump through the work of people like Kim Kardashian are doing what they're doing in criminal justice reform.