The Importance of Keeping Hard News at the Top

It's a real Pepsi Coke thing with people, like whether they like us chatting in the beginning and then getting into the world of entertainment. And then at the end, it goes off the rails. I would be very curious to see not only our retention rate, but our skip where people skip in the episodes. They don't share that with me, I think intentionally. But it is an interesting conversation about podcasts, not for us to have on this podcast.