This episode, recorded live at The Eternal Song live gathering (June 2025), brings together a distinguished panel featuring Patricia June Vickers, Judy Atkinson, Dr. Diana Kopua, and Donald “Del” Lavedure, moderated by Dr. Gabor Maté. The discussion explores the integration of ancestral wisdom and modern therapeutic methods to address and heal trauma within Indigenous communities. The group share their personal and professional experiences, emphasizing the connection between land, ancestry, and healing. The conversation highlights the importance of storytelling, cultural practices, and the role of spirituality in fostering collective and individual healing, while addressing how individuals outside Indigenous cultures can support this crucial work.

Topics:

00:00 Introduction of the Guests
02:14 Acknowledging Indigenous Lands and Realities
03:24 Exploring the Concept of Health and Ancestry
05:06 Understanding Ancestral Healing
08:08 Judy Atkinson on Ancestry and Healing
19:15 Patricia Vickers on Ancestry and Protection
21:23 Diana on Indigenous Knowledge and Connection
26:51 Defining Trauma and Its Impacts
32:23 Del Lavedure on Community-Based Healing
38:09 Judy Atkinson on the Power of Story in Healing
42:47 A Heartfelt Introduction
43:21 Exploring Trauma and Healing Modalities
44:32 Indigenous Perspectives on Trauma
48:17 Personal Stories of Healing
49:17 Concepts of Healing and Wholeness
53:23 Addressing Historical and Ongoing Trauma
57:23 The Role of Collective Memory in Healing
01:10:54 Connecting to Ancestral Practices
01:18:53 Final Reflections and Personal Insights

Resources:

Dr Gabor Maté

The Wisdom of Trauma (a SAND film)

Professor Judy Atkinson (We Al-li)
Patricia June Vickers, PhD
Diana Kopua (Mahi a Atua)

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