The technology that PayPal had was probably trivial. You know, in terms of what was possible at the time. It probably wasn't hard to make the app. What was hard is to get it in the market and get banks to not try to stop it or not succeed. Almost impossible. Have you noticed that the PayPal people all have really good powers of persuasion? And that they went on to start companies which you'd say don't even think that company could have succeeded unless the government was somehow a little bit on their side. Right? Didn't you think that about Tesla? Correct me if I'm wrong, but weren't there very large subsidies? They're government subsidies, right? So

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