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E18: Chris 'Drama' Pfaff - Dealing with Fame, Anxiety and Addiction

The Diary Of A CEO with Steven Bartlett

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The First Step to Positive Change

The first 10 episodes of his new podcast were a nightmare for him, he says. His advice to people who are going through similar things: "Take the first step to positive" He started by dabbling with meditation and then working out; that led to starting this podcast.

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