Apple's Steve Wozniacki talks about the early days of Mac computers. The company was struggling to compete with Windows at the time, he says. He also explains how Apple developed its first tablets and smartphones.
First, Jason brings on investor, former ad tech exec, and frequent guest Zach Coelius to discuss the strategic implications of Google's new ad attribution policy (01:43). Then Michael Dell joins for for a full interview (21:54) sharing stories from the early days of building Dell, scrappy supply-chain arbitrage, global expansion, negotiations with Steve Jobs and Bill Gates, the $67B EMC VMware acquisition (57:40) and more!