i think man films, when a nolds batman and films, does sn't fall o philosophical moral dilemmas. But he said, the nolan films are more than that. They're actually doing philosophy. And i think it really is sort of, it deserves some credit as as an intellectual contribution on its own. I mean, in some ways, this is the central notion that drives our podcast. It's not just the idea but what movies can do that analic philosophers don't want to do or aren't capable of doing. That was ikire and a, and what i really like about that, because i totally buy that.

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