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The Elites with Nils Gilman

Institutionalized

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How to Make the Government Better?

"I don't see them as requiring fundamentally different skills. I was the chief of staff on the chancellor at u. C. Berkeley for four years, and the skills that were required there are very similar to the kinds of skills i've had to exercise in the private sector," he says. "The problem is those things end up getting perceived, potentially, as corrupt." 'There's no way you are ever going to have anything other than self dealing,' cani adds.

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