The author spent a lot of time in the water with dolphins doing sonar on him, communicating back and forth. When she got it right, I was supposed to push a button that made a reward siren. And if she got it wrong, you'd hit a buzzer that was a clack and butt. She'd make this pile of fish on the floor down there. Here I was skulking behind this plywood thing, opening and revealing the things. Once she had a big enough pile of fish, she'd start getting them all wrong. Of course, you have to see just as well to get them all wrong as toget them all right.
Show Summary:
On this episode, Nate is joined by Eco-interventionist and long time friend DJ White. DJ is not necessarily a household name, but has been instrumental in successful environmental interventions - primarily for the oceans - for the last four decades. The list of his behind-the-scenes accomplishments is long, but today he joins Nate to describe how to be effective in change-making and outline ways that current activist efforts could be improved. He also shares his own profound experiences with some of Earth’s most intelligent creatures and how these cetacean friends shaped his life’s work.
About DJ White:
DJ White is a co-founder of Greenpeace International and founder of EarthTrust. He has played a leading role in protecting dolphins, whales, sea turtles, and countless other marine animals, including being the driving force behind the transition to more dolphin-friendly tuna, stopping widespread use of ocean drift nets in the 1980s, successfully stopping a national dolphin drive kill, and breaking the deadlock in capping the Kuwait oil fires.
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