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A mind-expanding conversation with Michael Pollan

The Gray Area with Sean Illing

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Is It Cheating to Use a Chemical to Induce a Spiritual Experience?

LZ Granderson: So we can have these chemicals that can reasonably reliably induce a mystical experience. And yet the fact that you are occasioning this experience by consuming a tab of paper covered in LSD chemical or consuming a mushroom would seem to make it very non-mystical, he says. LZ: We privilege the fact that we earn something by sheer dent of will versus insight gained through pills and blotter papers. But I think we should step back and wonder, is that really rational? The line between matter and spirit is one of our construct that may not belong to the world."

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