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DevRel
PJ: I think that smart companies, smart organization will hire the best people that will be available now. So if you're waiting to build a great DevRel team later until these unprecedented times are over or until what's the thing they always said, these rocky economic forecasts or whatever,. If you're waiting till that's done, you're not going to have as large of a pool to pick from. And so you're going to be picking people that are, and no one's left over. It is, it is a long-term play to have a DevRel team.