Collaborating With Director Frank Marshall

 Helder Guimarães is a world champion of card magic and one of the most innovative storytellers in magic today. He is bringing his new show, The Hope Theory, to an off-Broadway theater. In this episode, he shares the development of the new show and his personal journey of emigrating from Portugal to the United States, and how he tells that story with his magic. He also shares some insight into teaching the ladies of Oceans 8 how to be larcenous individuals.