It's pretty impressive that he went through that time period of being the kind of it kid and money and all the other stuff that was thrown into his face. And he was able to steer clear of that sort of demonic downfall spiral that people can get onto, which a lot of people get. You go to Hollywood, like they're in LA with money and action. But very cool conversation. Glad to have them on here. So thanks once again to Ryan for coming out. What do we got going on? We got to talk a live, by the way. Look, we sold out in Ann Arbor, Michigan. We just got done with that and shied down. We were sold