Jason: I want to circle back to something we talked about a little earlier. A lot of the emphasis has been around, you know, people and process and very much not on on technology when it comes to data governance. Given the challenge of finding talent in today's market is additionally challenging so we're lucky to have you here with us at ThoughtWorks Jason. What do you need to look for in terms of talent to kind of staff and build up your data governance function?

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