I've been in enterprise software before so I've done an enterprise software company. And there are good things about it but the bad thing is that you have these kind of long extended sales cycles. We want to create something that helped like in our kind of early version was primarily marketing software which is how do we help millions of organizations grow better using the internet and using whatever technology happens to be available at the time. If you're a SaaS or services company that stores customer data in the cloudthing you need to be. Sock to compliant from a third party, he says.

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